Nershi wrote:I truly thought the state would offer a teal season after the positive results from the other 3 states. Clearly there are motivations and agendas they aren't sharing with us.
Me too! I would have bet on it!
Nershi wrote:I truly thought the state would offer a teal season after the positive results from the other 3 states. Clearly there are motivations and agendas they aren't sharing with us.
get-n-birdy wrote:Remember, just because it's not legal doesn't mean you can't do it, there's just a fee if you get caught.
deet wrote:Serious question - is this just a fun fantasy you're playing out, or are you taking action in the real world? If the latter, is your strategy to influence HFW to file a lawsuit, and then let it go from there?
Big Doe Hunter wrote:Nershi wrote:I truly thought the state would offer a teal season after the positive results from the other 3 states. Clearly there are motivations and agendas they aren't sharing with us.
Me too! I would have bet on it!
Big Doe Hunter wrote:[quote="Nershi"]
I truly thought the state would offer a teal season after the positive results from the other 3 states. Clearly there are motivations and agendas they aren't sharing with us.
Big Doe Hunter wrote:[quote="Nershi"]
I truly thought the state would offer a teal season after the positive results from the other 3 states. Clearly there are motivations and agendas they aren't sharing with us.
Fish Felon wrote:I thought the same thing....probably because that's what they told us they'd do. Yup
We gave them the benefit of the doubt and they burned us. Yup I didn't agree at all with the decision in 2014 to not have a teal season but I did see some validity to concerns over guys shooting non-teal so I didn't raise a stink then. Uh huh...
It's clear they never anticipated the numbers would be so exceptional from the other states and that modern hunters are much more adept at identifying ducks (which is what I thought and hoped was the case). It's clear they were banking on those numbers being bad enough to justify never opening a season. Spot on Once their plan backfired they went to plan B; quietly working behind closed doors trying to use total bullshyte as a reason and hope no one would notice. Apparently so.
The agendas of Tom Landwehr, Brad Nylin, and the dozen or so influential members of MWA and the Concerned Duck Hunters were to never let us have a teal season despite all the science based research justifying one. I disgree about the MWA. They never talked to Steve or Tom. I'll make it crystal clear - this was ALL Tom and a few upper brasses decision. I have no idea about Zinter from Duluth and the CDH
All the stuff presented publicly like having a "mistake duck" was just a ploy to think it was actually being considered. I don't think so, I believe that was Steve's best shot as he know the brass would use the mistake ducks while teal hunting an issue, So he gave it a shot with the USFWS so us hunters had a teal season that maybe Tom would allow, Remember he lobbied for us hunters at the USFWS meeting for several years to get a teal season for the duck producing states. So he is not our enemy, far from it. The enemy is/was personal views effecting policy (and that originated at the top.) VS a policy based upon taking a neutral view point and use science as the basis for a teal season or not. .
Ten years ago, a small group of mostly Minnesota duck hunters formed to voice concern over what they called an erosion of duck hunting’s conservation ethic caused by an increasingly liberal approach to regulations.I couldn't disagree more with this sentiment. Supporting liberal regulations (or not being opposed to them) when populations are high enough to justify them doesn't mean you're anti-conservation. Just like wanting continental duck populations managed conservatively in your state because of what you think is happening in your backyard doesn't make you a conservationist.
The Concerned Duck Hunters Panel — which included some of the state’s top wildlife biologists — said duck hunting shouldn’t be allowed before sunrise, opposed starting the season in September and urged more restrictive bag limits. They also wanted spinning-winged decoys outlawed.
[Later in the same article]
Landwehr said he welcomes discussing the issues raised by the Concerned Duck Hunters and has suggested the topics be brought to the annual Waterfowl Symposium, sponsored by the Minnesota Waterfowl Association, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and DNR. The event, open to the public, is Feb. 7 in Bloomington.
Brad Nylin, executive director of the Waterfowl Association, said that while the agenda hasn’t been set, he expects the liberalized hunting regulations will be a symposium topic. His group is not in favor of an early teal season, for the same reasons voiced by the Concerned Duck Hunters.
[Later in the same article]
Landwehr said the liberalized regulations have given hunters more opportunities.
“You can hunt ducks 71 days in Minnesota, and can harvest six birds [in the daily bag],’’ he said. “It’s an extraordinary season.
“The question I’d like to throw out there is how much is enough? What is an ethical, moral, sportsmanlike season and bag limit?’’
That’s a question Zentner, Strand, Knudson and other Concerned Duck Hunters would like answered, too.
An early September teal season could be coming next fall for Minnesota duck hunters, but some hunters aren’t thrilled at the prospect of hunting ducks Labor Day weekend.
“I wish they wouldn’t do it,’’ said Roger Strand, 77, of New London, a well-known conservationist, waterfowler and longtime member of the Minnesota Waterfowl Association and Wood Duck Society.
Strand and others fear that hunters won’t be able to identify teal among the other ducks flying in September.
“There will be a lot of wood ducks shot in an early teal season, so I’m concerned,’’ Strand said.
Teal and a potential teal season were among topics Saturday at the Minnesota Waterfowl Association’s 17th annual Waterfowl Symposium in Bloomington, attended by about 100 people, including Strand.
[Later in the same article]
Jim Cox, 60, of Cologne, a longtime waterfowler and activist with the Minnesota Waterfowl Association, isn’t excited about an early teal season for that reason.
“I think it’s the stupidest idea,’’ he said. “We have a six-duck bag limit and 60-day season, and that’s not enough? And if you have a ‘mistake duck,’ now you can shoot at anything that comes over.’’
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