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Movie “ Dark Waters”...Destruction of All Life.

Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:41 pm

Just seen it...based on true, ongoing story. It is a real eye opener to the broad impact that unregulated or self-regulated chemical companies have on our planet life.
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Re: Movie “ Dark Waters”...Destruction of All Life.

Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:02 pm

There may not be life without chemical companies. Big Ag feeds the world. Pharma keeps you alive. Chemical companies clothe and shelter you. Your cell phone and truck are full of essential and useful chemicals.

Gun power is a chemical. Well I guess gun powder kills people just like guns do.

Most chemicals and chemical industries are now highly regulated (at least in the US and western Europe).

While PFAS chemicals are certainly very concerning, they have yet to move past "possibly carcinogenic" status. I am curious on why the EPA or others did not step in earlier (decade or two ago) with high levels of scrutiny and control.
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Re: Movie “ Dark Waters”...Destruction of All Life.

Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:04 pm

EPA

What are PFAS?
Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) are a group of man-made chemicals that includes PFOA, PFOS, GenX, and many other chemicals. PFAS have been manufactured and used in a variety of industries around the globe, including in the United States since the 1940s. PFOA and PFOS have been the most extensively produced and studied of these chemicals. Both chemicals are very persistent in the environment and in the human body – meaning they don’t break down and they can accumulate over time. There is evidence that exposure to PFAS can lead to adverse human health effects.

PFAS can be found in:

Food packaged in PFAS-containing materials, processed with equipment that used PFAS, or grown in PFAS-contaminated soil or water.

Commercial household products, including stain- and water-repellent fabrics, nonstick products (e.g., Teflon), polishes, waxes, paints, cleaning products, and fire-fighting foams (a major source of groundwater contamination at airports and military bases where firefighting training occurs).

Workplace, including production facilities or industries (e.g., chrome plating, electronics manufacturing or oil recovery) that use PFAS.

Drinking water, typically localized and associated with a specific facility (e.g., manufacturer, landfill, wastewater treatment plant, firefighter training facility).

Living organisms, including fish, animals and humans, where PFAS have the ability to build up and persist over time.

Certain PFAS chemicals are no longer manufactured in the United States as a result of phase outs including the PFOA Stewardship Program in which eight major chemical manufacturers agreed to eliminate the use of PFOA and PFOA-related chemicals in their products and as emissions from their facilities. Although PFOA and PFOS are no longer manufactured in the United States, they are still produced internationally and can be imported into the United States in consumer goods such as carpet, leather and apparel, textiles, paper and packaging, coatings, rubber and plastics.

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Re: Movie “ Dark Waters”...Destruction of All Life.

Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:11 pm

No doubt that we all have benefitted from modern chemicals. On the other hand, we all have suffered from the irresponsible disposal of the chemical waste products.
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