HnkrCrash wrote:Is all of this worth it? Not for me to say. Definitely a lot of oldsters passing away, but plenty of younger people too. It’s a friggin roll of the dice, and despite what people think, you literally have no idea how your body is going to react to this once infected. If it’s your spouse or child that ends up dying, my guess is you'd wish collectively we’d have done more.
These are the CDC numbers that are updated weekly, but the percentages aren't going to change.
People under age 45 account for 3% of all deaths. When you consider deaths represent a fraction of cases (considering there are several times the actual cases being reported).....so we're talking 3% of a fraction of a percent....then once you realize at least two thirds had underlying conditions....
Unless you're 65+ and unhealthy do you have to be concerned....until you get above 65 does this thing kill at a higher rate than the flu.
I'm not saying it's "like the flu," it's new and the mortality overall is slightly higher, yet enough to be viewed as significant, bottom line is that the mortality and hospitalizations are skewed heavily towards the extreme elderly.
MN median age of death is 87, age range of deaths is 56 to 100. Half the people who died are above 87, half are 87 down to 56 with the majority being in the 75-87 range. Most people came out of nursing homes and reported today....98.5% of those who died had underlying health conditions, most significant.
The people in our society who power the economy....the people who work.....are not the people dying.
What we need to do is quarantine the sick, isolate the vulnerable....as in isolate....not have a hundred old folks living and comingling in the same building that has staff going in and out like clockwork....like "on a schedule" to and from the outside world. That needs to stop if we truly want to save lives of the people who I'd say were sent off to die and already have a foot in the grave. Ever hear of anybody sent to a nursing home that moved out? No one ever moves out after they move in. It's not like college kids where they move in somewhere and then also move out. People in nursing homes were sent there to die....it's the end of the line. We need to quit pretending like these people weren't shipped to a place to die because those are the people dying and yes...as a result the reality is their lives have little value. Making sure a 35yo married guy with three kids has a job is much, much, much more important to society and our future than preventing an 87yo with chronic bronchitis and hypertension from dying so they can die three months later.
The fact that we can't have this conversation is a testament to how fukced up our society is when it comes to dealing with death. Out of sight---out of mind. It's totally acceptable to ship our elderly off to a home to die as long as we don't see it. But something starts killing them where their families sent them to die?
"Holy Shit! We have to stop this!?!"
It's ridiculous.
The other thing is the best way to prevent our elderly from getting it?
Get as many of our young and healthy to get it. People under 45. High schoolers and college kids especially. We should be having chicken pox parties so we deliberately get them exposed so they get it.
The only way to slow this significantly so it doesn't keep flaring up and taking out waves of old people is by all our young people getting it.....herd immunity......the only other option would be to wait a year and a half until there's a vaccine and we don't have that long. Nothing will be left of the world we used to know if we waited that long....there'd be nothing left to save
