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Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:29 pm

lol wow felon, your lack of historical knowledge and your ever loving need to be a contrarian surprise me none at all.


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Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:59 pm

Your evasion tactics when you're wrong surprise me none at all.

Your statement was Categorically False. NATO wasn't formed for the exact type of reason as Russia invading Ukraine. NATO was formed as a defense against the threat of ah offensive USSR, which Ukraine was wholly a part of. Thus, your statement is false. Categorically False in every aspect.

Those are just the simple facts.....they're neither right or wrong....they just are.....

Go back and look at the date when NATO was founded. Ukraine wasn't even a sovereign country when NATO was founded....so how are you trying to argue that the invasion of a country that wasn't even a country at the time was exactly the type of reason for why NATO was created?

It'd be like saying Columbus discovered America so the United States could help Spain fight Britain in the 1500's.......your dates and understanding of what happened, when, and why are FUBAR'ed...Yo
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Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:17 pm

NATO was the yin to the USSR yang.

Once the USSR fell and Moscow VOLUNTARILY relinquished all the countries within the USSR back to being sovereign nation states (i.e. they couldn't afford to financially support/control them anymore)......

....NATO should've folded.

Why would NATO, an organization of countries with the purpose of "defense" against a supposed soviet "offense" still need to exist.....after the USSR folded and VOLUNTARILY gave up control of all those countries?

No one fired a shot to get the soviets to do that....they were like, "fuggit, we don't want you anymore....you're on your own."

The notion that NATO needed to exist after the singular threat they were formed to defend against dissolved is retarded at best. What was NATO's purpose after the fall of the USSR?

To defend the countries that Russia didn't want and voluntarily gave up against the threat of Russia invading them?

Makes zero sense.

The only thing that makes sense is that NATO isn't about defense.....it's about Offense, which it is and has been since the fall of the steel curtain.

Ukraine getting invaded was an inevitability as a result of NATO existing and breaking their terms with Russia to not expand now at least a dozen times.
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Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:18 pm

lol they were part of the USSR against their will. Have you ever heard of the Holodomor? Christ felon, this is Day 1 stuff.

NATO is not an offensive alliance and has never invaded another country. NATO is still around to defend against Russia trying to establish the same land empire they had with the USSR.


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Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:22 pm

Drunk_Dynasty wrote:Russia invading Ukraine is the exact reason NATO was formed lol. All the ex Soviet Bloc nations wanted protection from Russia after being subjugated by them under the Soviet Union.

Exact reason, huh? So you're saying NATO was formed for a country that didn't exist at the time from invading another country that didn't exist at the time.

Neither Russia or Ukraine existed as countries when NATO was founded.....so what the fukc are you talking about!? Lol
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Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:32 pm

NATO founding charter meetings.....

"Guys, we need to form this alliance because in 73 years from now, 34 years after the threat of the USSR crumbles....which as you know, the threat of an offensive USSR serves as the entire basis for why we're meeting and discussing the formation of this proposed alliance....

....but never mind all that, the real exact reason for why we're doing this is because in 73 years from now Russia....not the USSR but the country of Russia as recognized in boundaries prior to WWII, will invade Ukraine, also in boundaries more or less similar to those seen prior to WWII. Russia will choose to invade the shithole country of Ukraine, a country they voluntarily will not want and give up on their own accord 34 years from now.....and it will take a very special sort of fukced up circumstances to get Russia to invade a country they Owned/Occupied/Controlled but then gave up because they didn't give a shit about them......

....and gentlemen, we're going to be responsible for being those fukced up circumstances....

....behold, I present before you!?


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Re: Putin

Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:57 am

Fish Felon wrote:
Drunk_Dynasty wrote:Russia invading Ukraine is the exact reason NATO was formed lol. All the ex Soviet Bloc nations wanted protection from Russia after being subjugated by them under the Soviet Union.

Exact reason, huh? So you're saying NATO was formed for a country that didn't exist at the time from invading another country that didn't exist at the time.

Neither Russia or Ukraine existed as countries when NATO was founded.....so what the fukc are you talking about!? Lol


This is embarrassingly ignorant, felon. Seriously.

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Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:59 pm

Yeah, embarrassing for you. Why can't you just admit that you're in over your head and wrong.

NATO wasn't formed for the exact reason of Russia invading Ukraine bro....hate to break it to you.....NATO's formation had absolutely nothing to do with that type of cosmic foresight.
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Re: Putin

Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:04 pm

NATO wasn't formed for the exact reason of Russia invading Ukraine bro....hate to break it to you.....NATO's formation had absolutely nothing to do with that type of cosmic foresight.[/quote]

Felon,
Don’t be so literal, no NATO was not formed specifically to protect Ukraine, the organization was formed to stem the potential spread of communism to the non communist countries. Russia is not commy but Putin would love to return to the Glory Days of the USSR. And taking Ukraine would help put the bread basket of the former Soviet Union back in the fold. Shit hole or not the Ukrainians don’t deserve to be annihilated by a crazy narcissist.
Just my thoughts anyway.

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Re: Putin

Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:48 pm

Felon, do you really not realize that the USSR was essentially Russia with puppet states they forced into communism?

Ask anyone in a Eastern Europe country how they feel about Russia.


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