Nershi wrote:How old do fawns need to be before you farmer friends from Iowa start shooting them?
First off, they're not friends, they're family.
Secondly, Good Question! I'll be sure to ask this fall after shooting some rutabagas and getting drunk. I'm honestly not sure....they just say "deer," and have never made any other distinction. It's not a question I feel like asking them out of the blue and over the phone.
Their livelihood is farming. Put yourself in someone like my cousin's shoes.....by age twenty-five he'd signed off on owing millions....literally had at least a couple million in debt he owed on, a wife, and three little kids. Margins are tight in Iowa when land prices are North of ten grand an acre.
What would you do after losing a fifth of the crop on a quarter section of land you just bought that isn't covered by crop insurance....so deer cause you to lose your ass and go into the red as an operation that year?
It's easy to judge people when it's not your fukcing money being lost. There isn't depredation money from the Iowa DNR for this shit.....despite their fukcing animals that caused him to lose his ass that year. Do you think if a bunch of cattle got loose and did that the farmer wouldn't have had to pay? Through commercial general liability...one way or the other if someone's animals come into your property and adversely affect your business's bottom line....you're going to get paid for it because you should, one way or another, most likely through court of some kind whether it's insurance subrogation or a personal civil lawsuit....
.....so why in the fukc is it any different when it comes to the state's animals?
It shouldn't be. Not everyone values wildlife the same as you do and quite frankly it's pretty fukced that hunters push their ideals and value systems onto private property owners expecting them to feel the same way they do.
Why is it any landowners obligation to raise deer because you want to shoot them that fall?
Just so I understand you clearly, you want them to never shoot deer that are wreaking havoc on their business products, eat the losses, and deal with the financial consequences from not shooting deer......so there's more deer around for hunters to shoot in the fall?
Oh, and they don't give a fukc about deer when it comes to hunting season....let everyone who asks hunt for deer. There's a group of dudes from Georgia who come and hunt every few years. I'd go down and actually deer hunt but it takes about three years and like $500 nowadays for a deer tag. I think a non-resident doe is like $350 and an every other year tag if you're lucky. I'll have to go look it up and see....bottom line is it's totally fukced. Blame the Iowa DNR trying to extort hunters for a big part of the reason they can't get enough guys to hunt deer for them and lower how many there are. They live in the middle of nowhere. A town of 300 old people that literally can't support a bar....the only bar in town closed about a decade ago.
