Designer Shot Shells....

[emptymag]

Them fiocchi Dakota country have been my shell the last two seasons. Decent load, decent speed and has round polished shot that in my book counts more to killing birds than the loads and speeds most cool shells hype. You get all that for 11.99 a box making it cheaper than the welding spatter everyone calls experts.

Anyone else give them a try yet?

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Yep, patterned like crap in my shotguns.

Still shooting Remington sportsman steel and Estate's.

[gimpfinger]

[quote="gimpfinger"]Them fiocchi Dakota country have been my shell the last two seasons. Decent load, decent speed and has round polished shot that in my book counts more to killing birds than the loads and speeds most cool shells hype. You get all that for 11.99 a box making it cheaper than the welding spatter everyone calls experts.

Anyone else give them a try yet?

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Yep, patterned like crap in my shotguns.

Still shooting Remington sportsman steel and Estate's.[/quote]I did notice that the more open a choke the better they did. Barely a cripple last year with them through an improved cylinder.

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[emptymag]

Hmm. I'll try'em again sometime.

[Mallard_maniac]

I get a healthy discount on hevi products, despite that I've shot estate's, remington sportsman and federals (blue and reds) the last 20-30yrs. Because of the cost savings I'll be trying hevi-steel this year at about $80 a case I'm taking one for a test drive. If it shoots like hevimetal it'll be the last case of it I buy. I did not like hevimetal although buddies swear by it.... black cloud can be had at about %50 normal price if you shop around and watch for deals, although Im not a fan and it burned dirty. Same w/ hypersonic... it hit like normal steel but after picking powder out of my eyes every third round I ditched it. I'm probably one of the few here that still remembers shooting lead legally at waterfowl.... nothing will ever replace that.

Ive done all my waterfowling my entire life with 3" or less shells.

[gimpfinger]

I get a healthy discount on hevi products, despite that I've shot estate's, remington sportsman and federals (blue and reds) the last 20-30yrs. Because of the cost savings I'll be trying hevi-steel this year at about $80 a case I'm taking one for a test drive. If it shoots like hevimetal it'll be the last case of it I buy. I did not like hevimetal although buddies swear by it.... black cloud can be had at about %50 normal price if you shop around and watch for deals, although Im not a fan and it burned dirty. Same w/ hypersonic... it hit like normal steel but after picking powder out of my eyes every third round I ditched it. I'm probably one of the few here that still remembers shooting lead legally at waterfowl.... nothing will ever replace that.

Ive done all my waterfowling my entire life with 3" or less shells.

I got to shoot lead quite a few years about gave up duck hunting those first years of steel. You could hear the bb's hitting birds and hardly knock a feather off any.

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[cstemig]

I was also fortunate enough to use lead during my early years. My "go to" shell was Federal 2 3/4" magnums in 4-shot. I had to use magnums because my recoil spring in the old Model 11 Remington was very stiff.

I almost quit duck hunting when the first steel shot came out. My first experience with that stuff was horrible. I remember hitting several ducks with the stuff, hearing the pellets strike the bird, but noting fell. After the first couple of hours, I had enough down feathers around the blind to stuff a small mattress.

[Bullet21XD]

A good high brass lead 4 load still kills ducks better than most steel loads.

Que fouler...telling how "new" steel outperforms lead.

[lanyard]

Black Cloud 10% off already Low Fleet Prices at Fleet Farm!

[h2ofwlr]

I had similar experiences as Gimp and Chuck... heck my G uncle quit hunting after he peppered 2 different ducks and they went down, and as he approached they got back up to fly away. he unloaded the gun and put it in the case and said "I'm through" and he never hunted again.

Ron, no steel does not out perform lead, But true 100% Hevi-shot does.
But the newer steel loads sure are a LOT better than 20 yrs ago and can indeed kill ducks and geese stone dead if in range.

[gimpfinger]

A good high brass lead 4 load still kills ducks better than most steel loads.

Que fouler...telling how "new" steel outperforms lead.

There's only one thing I've found the outperforms lead and Remington broke up with hevi shot so so much for that. I'd by two boxes of 2's a season for when the geese started to piss me off.

When coyote hunting ill run hevi dead coyote T's because I'm lazy and don't want to have to walk to find them.

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