Bullet21XD wrote:. They find shit you never knew existed.
Bullet21XD wrote:Doesn't need to be an "official" refuge to be sanctuary for a duck. But i'm sure you knew that. Literally, thousands of holes a duck can hang out unmolested by you, or any other hunter. They find shit you never knew existed.
h2ofwlr wrote:BTW, this includes the #%&king fishermen with their 115hp motors buzzing the divers on the lakes, and we wonder why there are no divers in Mn like 40 years ago? SMH!
duck_dude wrote:My point wasn't about the conservative bag limits, and the MnDNR's inability to grow a pair and give us an equal harvest opportunity, it was that there are all these lakes getting water control structures, creating premium habitat, but none are getting set aside as refuges to foster the congregation of migratory birds throughout the fall.
h2ofwlr wrote:Bullet21XD wrote:Doesn't need to be an "official" refuge to be sanctuary for a duck. But i'm sure you knew that. Literally, thousands of holes a duck can hang out unmolested by you, or any other hunter. They find shit you never knew existed.
Spot on.
For example, years ago Swan lake had many little holes in the thick cattails, often they piled in there. People left these little "refuges" alone as they could not get to them. And ducks stuck around as a direct result. Then the mud motors came about, and no more little "refuges" and the over all hunting took a decidedly turn for the worse in that point in time.
Undisturbed areas are a must for them to stick around. Studies have proven that especially mid afternoon to dusk disturbances will indeed push the ducks out much sooner.
BTW, this includes the #%&king fishermen with their 115hp motors buzzing the divers on the lakes, and we wonder why there are no divers in Mn like 40 years ago? SMH!
Also about that same time on SL, the DNR in its infinite stupidity of mismanagement of SL, decided to lower the lake 12 to 18" lower that the old average height was - the result was many of these refuges are now dry and decreased the over all water acreage by 40%. Heck the main "official" refuge is mostly now dry in the fall.
And hunters wonder why they see no ducks? Grrrrr....
Bullet21XD wrote:Actual refuges opening to hunting for the first time usually results in a pretty severe beatdown...for a short period the first year. Doesn't take long for the place to transform into just another duckless shithole.
I think setting up some WMA's and WPA's on a yearly rotational hunting/non hunting status could be very beneficial to hunters. BUT...we may kill too many ducks...and changing some signage every year would prove to be more work than any area wildlife manager in MN could handle.
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